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Old May 23rd, 2011, 11:09 AM
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Question El Paso Palm Trees, Buying Palm Trees

El Paso Palm Trees have been erratically decimated due to the cold. I would like to purchase palm trees which can survive the cold snaps we have here in El Paso. I saw a billboard that had a beautiful set of palm trees on I10, near Sunland Park Mall. I would like to have those installed in my front and back yard, replacing all the dead palm trees I have since the cold. Where do I buy these palm trees and how do I get them shipped to El Paso Texas? How much is shipping palm trees to El Paso Cost and do I save money if I purchase more than 6 palms?

Also, what is the cost of installation for these large palm trees from the billboard? And will these palm trees survive cold snaps in EL Paso?
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Old May 24th, 2011, 11:11 AM
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Smile El Paso Palm Trees

El Paso looks like a place which was hit hard by the cold. It is sad that you and everyone in El Paso lost their palm trees. The Billboard on I10 near the Sunland Park mall has Medjool Date Palms on each side of the billboard. Installing large palms like Medjools depends on the area that needs installing and the project size. Usually the cost of installing one palm is the same as installing six. There is usually a minimum amount of hours in order to rent a crane. Normally crane costs are around 275 per hour. Also whenever purchasing 2 or more there is always a discount applied either for the palms or shipping cost.

Medjool Date palms are cold hardy but with a freeze like the one El Paso had, its hard for anything to survive. Medjool Date palms can withstand cold snaps but for three days below zero degrees its hard on any plant or palm life. The other palm tree that does extremely well is the Windmill Palm. The Windmill Palm does great for cold freezes. The European Fan Palm, also known as the Mediterranean Fan Palm, is well suited for extreme cold temperatures. The Windmill and the European fan palm are known as Snow Palm Trees.

I hope this helps!
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Old May 25th, 2011, 04:05 PM
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Default Thank you Max!

So the medjool date palms are ideal for el paso. I did some research on them and they go down to zone 7 and zone 8...which is great. You said the average crane fees are 275 per hour and thats sounds good. What would be the average time it would take to install 8 large medjools about 10ft ct into my landscape?

The European fan palm does not grow that tall so it would make better for a potted plant at least in my opinion and the Windmill palm looks pretty unique with its brown coat on but I hear they are very very slow growing.

The billboard looks nice and got everyone's attention...To the rescue! lol
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Old May 26th, 2011, 02:28 PM
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Default The time of installation depends on the size of tree...

Also if the holes have been pre dug. It is always best to have the holes ready to go for the installation since the crane is paid hourly. The windmill palm has always been the best option for cold areas such as Northeast United States but if El Paso got hit hard by a cold it might be good to get them there as well. The only downside to the windmill palm is its maturing height and the length of time it takes to become mature. The windmill palm gets to a mature height around 10 to 15 feet tall, however it takes about 3 to 4 years to grow a foot. Normally the root ball of a large medjool date palm is 3 feet wide by 3 feet length by 3 feet height. It is always best to dig or escavate a hole larger than the root ball. The roots of a medjool date or any palm tree always grow towards least resistance. A palm tree is not like an oak tree, an oak tree roots will grow anywhere and rip up concrete even pick up a side of a home. A palm tree is a monocot and its roots will only grow to the amount of area given.
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Old May 27th, 2011, 03:45 PM
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Default Okay, I have another question...

When it comes down to winter time, do I need to cover up the trunks or leaves of the palm? Its starts getting chilly around the end of October beginning of November. Is there any additive I can place on the palm tree to make it grow stronger and live longer. What about spraying them down, someone told me something about liquid copper fungicide and that it should be applied twice a year, but what if I dont have a palm fungus? And what about fertilizing the palm tree, what type of fertilizer and how much should I water it?
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Old May 31st, 2011, 12:59 PM
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Smile Answering your questions...

At the bottom of this page scrolling to the end and where it says Palm Knowledge Base, there is a lot of information there along with information about protecting your palm during winter. Here is the direct link to the Weather Protection. To answer your question directly, covering up your trunk of your palm during winter is advisable if you feel like it. Medjools are cold hardy so they should do fine during the winter. What some people do to counter the cold is to wrap chicken wire around the trunk and fill it in with pine needles. That sounds like a mess to me and a lot of hassle. Others use chicken wire but wrap heating wire around the chicken wire to keep it from freezing, thats an easier method and better looking. The best method I have seen people do is wrap the palms trunks and fronds in Christmas lights. I like the Christmas lights method the best not only because of Christmas, its just an easier pick up afterwards. There are alot of different methods to protecting your palm during the winter but for the most part, cold hardy palm trees live up to that term.

There are many different additives that can make palm trees grow faster, stronger, fuller, and healthier. One additive that we send out with every palm tree is a product called Mycohorrizal Fungi. This product ensures survival and helps generate a better root ball and will in turn produce a better, fuller, and more beautiful palm. There are other additives but I like to use the organic kind. Its always been my method as a gardener to use organic materials and to recycle and improve, not only our community but the earth itself.

Sprayng down palms is great for the palm and can be done twice a year. Once before your cold season and then 6 months from then. Liquid copper fungicide will ensure that your palm trees do not get any bugs and also acts as a protection from the cold. Even if you dont have a fungus its still wise to spray down your large palm trees, there are a myriad of bugs out there and unless you want a hornets nest on top of your palm or a palm weevil then spraying down is necessary.

Regarding palm fertilizer, each palm tree needs specific fertilizers for ideal growth. You can use a palm fertilizer such as miracle grow but if you don't have acidic soil and your palm thrives on acidic soil, then its not going to look as good as it can. Find out what type of palm you have and make the ideal soil type for that palm tree. If the palm tree came from the phillipines in the jungle like swamp forest, then try to recreate that environment. an easy recreation of that environment would be to place the palm near a pool, so theres higher humidity or build a small pond, and instead of a drip spray sprinkler system, use a sprinkler that sprays high on the leaves so to recreate those conditions. If you have a date palm well, date palms dont use that much water, but in the desert it floods and then dries up. So when watering a date palm, let the soil dry out completely before putting more water. In other words, it would not be wise to be watering a date palm everyday, because thats not what they are used to and thee roots will probably stay soggy and not be able to grow correctly.

A key note, every palm tree is different and each palm tree grows different and each place that its grown is different, so trial and error is about the only way to get something to grow right, but not at the expense of not learning about the palm to begin with. If you know the palm is a humid type palm then dont try to grow it out in the desert and vice versa. Find out what the palm tree needs are before buying it and see if you can keep up. There are so many different variety of palms that it should be hard to find one that fits your life and lifestyle.
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Old June 1st, 2011, 10:24 AM
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Smile Thank you for all your help with my palms...

I looked at and reviewed the weather protection link that you had on your reply. It was fantastic and the three different methods of winter protection gave me different ideas on using it for other plants. After reading all that information, I think im just going to use Christmas lights to keep my medjool palms warm during winter.

Where can I get that Mychorrizal fungi and how do I apply it? How long does the mychorrizal fungi last or do I have to place it every year on the root ball?

Spraying down my palm is harder that it looks because I need at least a 14 foot ladder to get above the crown and the leaves are huge so its going to be a weekend task. Any tips on getting to the crown of the medjool without getting poked?

Whats the best medjool date palm fertilizer?
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Old June 2nd, 2011, 04:38 PM
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Default Yes there is alot more infomation in the Palm Blog section of realpalmtrees.com

The Palm Blog is a great reference tool to help with the most popular species of palms. The Palm Blog even has a DIY area so you can learn how to do it yourself. The Christmas lights is a great option in protecting the medjool palm.

The Mycohorrizal Fungi is available in the care products area of the home page. Here is a link to the mycohorrizal root stimulator you can use on the medjools. The mycohorrizal also works for plants or any foliage that has roots. The best part of the mycohorrizal root stimulator is its a one time treatment. Once you place the mycohorrizal in the dirt around the rootball it will continue to grow and combine with the root system. So to answer your question of whether the mychorrizal fungi last, the answer would be definitely.

Spraying down palms can be done without using a ladder, but using a ladder can only improve the overall coverage. Medjool Palms can be a little tricky to get into but with patience, youll be able to get the crown covered. The easiest way that I have done is to connect a water receptacle to the end of a hose and then place the spraying down liquid, usually liquid copper fungicide or palm chelate, into the container. The water ecpetacle acts ike a mixer and so when you turn on the hose it begins mixing and spraing down the palm. If the water pressure is not strong enough to make it to the crown of the palm then just add more pressure. Normally in houses there is a valve to your home that controls the amount of water you would like to use and I believe its measured in pressure...but anywhich way, just find the valve an turn it a little bit to realease more pressure. Just dont forget to turn it back or else your water bill might be a little higher.

Not getting poked by a medjool is like trying not to get dirty while gardening, its going to probably happen but just be prepared for it to happen. So in other words, wear safety goggles and thick leather gloves and long sleeve shirt with blue jeans. The spines on the medjool tend to hurt much more after then immediately. Whenever your poked by a plant the probability of infection is high if not clear and wiped with alcohol. So if you get pricked or poked, please wash off the area and apply antiseptic, rubbing alcohol works for me. An remember please wear goggles whenever handling any of the Phoenix family palm trees.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 12:02 PM
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Default I looked at the whole site and it has much more information than needed

The Do it Yourself part of the palm blog was useful, it was practical. I just bough two large bags of the Mychohorrizal root stimulator for my medjools and I also bought the Liquid Copper fungicide to spray down the medjool. Its amazing how the Mychorrizal root stimulator works within the root system of plants.

Okay so just buy a water hose container to mix the liquid copper fungicide to get to the top of the palm. That sound much easier than getting a ladder to get to the top. the water pressure is good, when I moved into my home the pressure was turned toward high and so pressure is alot more than normal. It was a good reminder to turn it down, I forgot to when I moved in...lol.

Yes, I learned wearing gloves was essential but didn't think about goggles which sounds like the most important thing you would want to cover. I can live without a hand but cant live without my eyes...lol.. I got pricked a couple times so I understand about the redness that develops after getting pricked by the palm. Its probably because of the dust and dirt accumulated on the point and that goes into the skin. The one I did not scratch was the one that healed the same day, and by healed i mean just stopped itching.
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