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Old April 6th, 2009, 12:27 AM
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Exclamation Mycohorrizal Fungi for Canary date Palm

I just purchased a Canary Island Date Palm and it says on this site to put Mycohorrizal fungi on the side of the rootball to help with shock when transplanting. Mine is in a pot right now. Is there anything else I need to do except mix in some sand. I read something somewhere not to let the trunk get wet or it will rot out. How long do I need to wait to fertilize it once it is in the ground? Also I don't know what Mycohorrizal Fungi is or where to get it. I tried to look it up online but couldn't find anything about it or a place that sells it. Is it listed as another name? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am kinda nervous about transplanting it since I don't know anything about Palms. I read to use fertilizer spikes , does it matter what kind? Is there anything I should spray on the trunk to protect it from getting wet, like raining on it? Thanks for any help!!
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Old April 8th, 2009, 10:19 PM
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Default Transplanting Canary Island Date palms

You have read correct. You do not want to over water the trunk area because it could lead to trunk rot. At a small size it is unlikely. The phoenix family likes more dry than wet. So when you water make sure to let it dry out before watering again. Yes when transplanting add Mycohorrizal Fungii to the side. This will definitely help with the transplant shock if any. Where is it being transplanted and where do you live? Spikes work but depending on how much you want to take care of it and what you use for soil depends on what fertilizer you should use. Send a pic to that will help. Or how big is it over all or if it has a trunk how big is the trunk?
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Old April 10th, 2009, 05:57 AM
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Default Around what are do you live in

Canary Island Date like sandy soil. Well draining is the key for the canary island date to thrive. Also like ruskinpalms said, let the soil completely dry out before watering again.
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Old April 13th, 2009, 04:55 PM
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Default Mycohorrizal Fungi for Canary Date Palm

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Its taken so long to get back to you. I live in South Alabama close to the Florida state line. I was just going to use some compost that we accumlated from leaves egg shells etc and mix in some sand with it. We usually make our own compost with things left over from the year before. What do you think would be the best fertilizer in that case or should I use a different potting soil? Its in a pot so I don't know how big it is exactly but if it was in the ground I would say 5 Feet maybe it doesn't have the solid trunk yet.Where do I get Mycohorrizal Fungi? Can't find it on the internet.

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Old April 14th, 2009, 05:56 PM
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I bought some from here. I called and simply asked. They were really nice. When transplanting into the ground I would use some of the dirt that you dug up as well. This way it will get use to the earth around the root ball. I would also add fertilizer not around the root ball but three to four feet away this way the roots would have to extend to receive the nutrients they need and that way better establishing your palm. Do not use the fungi under neath the root ball. Remember the soil needs to be well draining. Use some pine bark and sand along with the compost.
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Old April 23rd, 2009, 02:57 PM
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Hey Ruskin Palms,
I just got my Mycohorrizal Fungi in the mail and copper fungicide just in case I need it. I am suppose to transplant this in the ground this Saturday. I found out its in a 15 Gallon pot. I know you had ask me previously how big it was and I wasn't too sure. I got one more question in the last 4 days or so I have notice that the very tips of the palm are turning dead brown just a really small part of the tip and its even on the the newest growth. Should I be concerned also the older growth has black and yellow spots which some of that was on the plant when I bought it and the nursery said that those will die back more and to just cut them off when they do and that's what gives the trunk its unique look. So what is causing the brown dead tips ?underwatering? Please let me know as soon as you can hopefully before Saturday morning. I do want to get it out of the pot soon. THanks so much for all your advice!
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Old April 26th, 2009, 04:55 PM
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I transplanted the palm. Here are some pics. I am alittle upset right now as the new growth is now showing signs of dark brown spots and are the tips of the leaves normally split? I have some copper fungicide I think is Liqui-Cop but should I even spray the tree? :I was going to spray the base but didn't know if I should since I just transplanted it yesterday.

1st pic shows how big it is
2nd pic shows diseased looking old growth
3rd pic shows dark brown spots on new growth which is hard to see but its the same spots on pic 2 just lighter
4th pic shows[what the base is looking like
5th pic showing more of the older growth leaves
Hope this helps me find out what to do.

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Old April 26th, 2009, 08:05 PM
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The Canary Island Date is a bit sensitive to transplanting. Its ok to loose some leaves in the process. Thank you for the photos. This helps very much. I am very sorry I could not reach you before Saturday. I feel terrible.

With new growth come the older growth that will eventually turn brown with yellow to dark brown spots. This is normal but can be from a previous deficiency. Normally a healthy canary Island date palm will age the leaves to a light brown with no spots. This is rare to come by.

The tips browning can be for many reasons. Some are a result of mistreating, and when I say mistreating I mean anything that involves the leaves touching the ground or any other surface. Browning tips can also be the result of under or over watering. Its hard to tell. Browning of the tips can also be a result of salt burn. TO much sodium in the water. So if you can eliminate some of those you can probably find the source. It could be a combination of some.

A good rule of thumb of when to water is once in the morning and once in the afternoon.

Hopefully you are using well draining sandy soil.

I forgot if you mentioned where are from?

I do see in the background that the soil is clay like? Does that go for where the Canary is planted?

Good job with the red lava rocks, they make for great drainage.

Also the phoenix family is easily suceptable to some deficiencies such as Magnesium Deficiency. A easy way to prevent this is adding magnesium. You should also look for a fertilizer high in Nitrogen. This is a good mix here 18-4-12 or anything close to this ratio. Middle number should always be low.

Have more questions ask away.... Im here. Ill be checking every day so that I wont miss an important day as transplanting a canary. They are great palms if taken care of properly.
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Old April 27th, 2009, 03:35 PM
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Ruskin Palms,
The new growth also is getting brown and yellow spots. When I transplanted it I put fertilizer spikes in the ground that are made for palms. I think it has magnesium in them (almost positive.) Should I spray it with copper fungicide. Also I was going to spray the base with it. Would it be ok since it was just transplanted? We do have clay and sandy soil. We made a big hole the size of the circumference you see in picture we dug down pretty deep. Our soil is crazy its like a layer of good stuff , a layer of clay and a layer of sand. We got all the hard clay out and mix in some good soil with the sandy soil. The soil is a mixture of good compost, sand and some clay but not to the point it holds water. The drainage is good. When it rains here it never even puddles. We filled the hole up with water and it drained fairly quickly. So I think we are okay there. Just don't understand why the new growth is getting brown and yellow spots on it. But it you don't think it is something to worry about then I just keep watering it and see what happens. If it is a magnesium deficiency the spikes should help. Thank you for responding. I live in South Alabama about close to the Florida state line.

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Old August 19th, 2009, 11:34 AM
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You have a fairly serious Potasium deficiency going on there. Get some potash (feed or hardware store ) Potasium Sulfate. Mix about 3-5 gallons with 1 large tblsp per gallon. water slow to let it soak in close to the roots. The spotting should stop. none on new leaves and no new spots on old leaves. Continue this treat in addition to regular fert every three months.
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